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Nas > Jay

.. but I realize that's a minority opinion. Some of it probably has to do with age, but Jay never put anything out that can even remotely touch Illmatic. I'd take Lost Tapes over most of his catalog. Something about making a career out of flipping other people's (better) lines rubs me the wrong way. I've also never really been a fan of his voice either. Plus, his fake street gangster bravado is hollow as fuck. I know everybody does it but his threat-line raps are so lol. He grew up in Marcy back when it was shitty but the dude was just an average high school kid and then got out quickly.

Also, Nas is a god tier storyteller, which is my soft spot for rappers.

This is preference i suppose. Illmatic stillmatic and life is good were dope to me but so was reasonable doubt American gangster and holy grail. Jay sells game and nas is a storyteller. This is song cry vs. Undying love. Nas is very remorseful in his raps while jay preaches doing it right. Im a huge fan of both but i do not put on nas when im entertaining. He can be a bit of a downer.

My thing with Nas is that he has no musical sense. He let Salaam Remi, a garbage producer with a dated style, dominate a decade of his career. Those awesome songs on The Lost Tapes? He ditched them in favor of the crap he used as filler on I Am ... and Stillmatic. He spent a decade trying to make a club banger even though that's not in his stylistic wheelhouse at all.

Nas probably is more talented at rapping than Jay Z. Certainly, it's very close. But his career disappoints me for that reason. He tried to be trendy, while Jay Z was making the trends. He tried to be popular, while Jay Z was redefining what popularity meant for rappers. But more than anything, he picked bad producers to stick with, while Jay Z went with Kanye West and Just Blaze, then picked out select times to use the biggest names around.

it's good to see the wit with which you compose verse bleeds into your posting.

that's an unimaginably bad opinion.

How does it feel being wrong on such a regular basis @eng?

it doesn't (because i'm not). feeble attempt at a loaded question. at least your folly is consistent.

I'll put my folly in your anus.

no thanks, i'm not dagel.

Yes you are.

Jay-Z is the better entertainer and nas is the better lyricist. Ether killed the battle. Why is this even still in debate?

the black album.

Whoever created this thread must be a faggot

Jay also put on alot of producers like 9th for example.

Illmatic is the best album of all time probably. I put reasonable doubt right up there though and 9 other jay albums that are all leaps and bounds ahead of everything else nas ever made. Nas is good for 2 songs an album. Jay was good for 10. Nowadays i care less for either tho.

But as it stands today id rather hear a new nas track than a jay track. Mainly because you know what your getting with nas. Hes gonna come like he always does. The only thing thats gonna make or break it is rhe beat. Jay on the other hand even ruins good beats nowadays.

That said jay is so far ahead of nas it isnt even fair to discuss.

9th

he speaks....
 

that's what it all boils down to. Records and Money. So if that's whats most important and thats what makes on MC better than the next then Vanilla Ice is better the Pharoah Monch

he speaks....
 

nigga name 10 Jay Z songs that will stand the test of time as far as lyrics and MC ability goes

I won't hold my breath

dude has mainstream appeal, that's it. In My Lifetime Vol 2 is Jays best album to me

And this is why your taste sucks

you only like the nigga cause you're as old as him