This.

Not to say we haven't been visited by aliens, because I haven't been around forever, but there is no solid evidence for it imo and I've looked very hard lol

I'm not knowledgeable about biology, chemistry, or physics, so I don't have much comment to make on this.

One thing, though: you mention the size of the universe. That's just the observable universe... I'm fairly sure that we don't know how large the whole thing is.

I didn't mention a size other than it being incredibly huge.

I was merely correcting you on the fact life elsewhere is a mathematical probability at this point.

Which it most certainly is.

Oh you're positive about this? Lmao....The two don't necessarily go hand in hand. I'm talking about tons of cave paintings, actual paintings, stories, etc. Not only from 1 civilization, but almost all of the Ancient civilizations across the globe have some experience with "beings from the sky." That's an undeniable truth.

I agree that Ancient people don't get enough credit, but it certainly raises some questions....especially when we would think to find tons of ancient machinery, but have not.

And no, they haven't actually witnessed flowing water, but they did PROVE that there is based on the salt deposits left there. It's not speculation anymore, it's proof. There is also water ice on the moon in craters that have never seen sunlight. That has the potential for life as well.

To be clear, I know nothing.

That said, I thought water came from suns via solar winds. If I am correct in this belief, how does that work?

i'm as positive as can be based on actual evidence.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUUzQINoark

that about sums it up^. as for cave paintings its just nonsense. if you have any in mind that i can specifically address let me know. i'm guessing your talking like the "swirls" and the stick figures or whatever that look like they have on helmets? it could be anything. it only could be an alien if you want it to be that lol.

every civilization talks of beings from the sky because pretty much across the board thats where gods lived. even if your god was the sun and moon or planets etc. any mythology surrounding gods interacting with humans has to come from there. where else would the gods come from? lol.

keep in mind ancient people had a much more intimate relationship with the nights sky, so for them not to have theories to explain what they don't understand is more far fetched then they believe creatures from another planet came to them.

there is more than enough evidence for every single ancient construction, proving its man made.

you are vastly underestimating the enormity of space. i think its utterly ricidulous to think even if we had 100 thousand more years of unhindered development that we could actually make it anywhere in space.

i firmly believe that there are probably living beings on our level and past it on planets all over the universe, the problem comes in that unless they are literally in our neighborhood of our galaxy, it isn't anywhere near probable that they could make it here, let alone make it all the way out here, and arrange some stones and leave.

Lol. Yep. That's all I needed from this thread. Legit.