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El Muffin 07-02-2015 12:55 AM

Srsly

Noone mentioned Pele itt?

Yeah u should all stfu


It's like watching a improv genius

N that's comin from someone who barely watches football

His skill is undeniable. N Ive seen all the ronaldis, messis n Maradona

Ronaldo is just a thoroughbred. Machine

Messi is a genius on the pitch

Maradona sold his soul to Satan or something

Pele is a lunatic/rain man

Huge compliment

Witty 07-02-2015 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Muff (Post 499276)
Srsly

Noone mentioned Pele itt?

Yeah u should all stfu


It's like watching a improv genius

N that's comin from someone who barely watches football

His skill is undeniable. N Ive seen all the ronaldis, messis n Maradona

Ronaldo is just a thoroughbred. Machine

Messi is a genius on the pitch

Maradona sold his soul to Satan or something

Pele is a lunatic/rain man

Huge compliment

Pele was not on the same level as any of these people.

He played in an era when there was no offside rule ffs.

If we're talking players left out of the convo, let's talk about Zidane, and the Brazilian Ronaldo, plus Ronaldinho and Romario too.

All of them were better than Pele.

Witty 07-02-2015 06:54 PM

Not to mention Makelele who is THE most underrated player in history imo.

He's @Certain's type of player.

Pretty much invented the CDM role, as it is utilized today.

Zen 07-02-2015 07:14 PM

Ronaldinho has the best skills I've ever seen.

Pele is overrated.

Maradona's the man.

Messi's the GOAT.

Eŋg 07-02-2015 08:03 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7mXG...M3WX7-&index=1

the greatest >

Witty 07-02-2015 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Eŋg (Post 499689)

He made the game beautiful.

He was an artist as well as a player.

Incredible talent.

Witty 07-02-2015 08:09 PM

Also, his first touch was the best i've ever seen.

Instant control from any sort of pass.

Witty 07-02-2015 08:19 PM

Also....George Best was up there with Maradona, Zidane and Messi.

Too bad he had the curse of the Irish....aka alcoholism :/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6FMev3I6NY

Eŋg 07-02-2015 08:31 PM

best ripped apart shitty teams. zizou made Brazil look like a pub-team in his last tournament - at 34. all respect for best, self-destruction aside, he was a gifted dribbler, but not on the same tier. if you want criminally underrated, two names come to mind:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLdRu...M3WX7-&index=5

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVEcb...3WX7-&index=14

that messi compilation was beautiful, btw. i'll fallen out of love with football in the modern era and will probably only concede lionel's the objective goat in a decade when i can ruminate on his career, but zidane will endure as my personal favourite. i enjoy cruyff, too.

Witty 07-02-2015 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Eŋg (Post 499705)
best ripped apart shitty teams. zizou made Brazil look like a pub-team in his last tournament - at 34. all respect for best, self-destruction aside, he was a gifted dribbler, but not on the same tier. if you want criminally underrated, two names come to mind:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLdRu...M3WX7-&index=5

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVEcb...3WX7-&index=14

that messi compilation was beautiful, btw. i'll fallen out of love with football in the modern era and will probably only concede lionel's the objective goat in a decade when i can ruminate on his career, but zidane will endure as my personal favourite. i enjoy cruyff, too.

Best ripped apart the best European football had to offer at the time, he was European Footballer of the year (the predecessor to the Ballon D'or)...what more could he have done? Just because he didn't play in an era that was more competitive, doesn't mean he couldn't have. He had everything it takes as far as i can tell.

Also, I do rate Beardsley highly, but Le Tissier was incredible, and as you say very underrated.

Also, King Kenny?

Eŋg 07-02-2015 08:46 PM

best did nothing wrong except probably drink a good deal of his potential away. in another era he may have thrived and been comparable to all-time greats but i think he is a touch overrated. he was definitely a player - but one of the greatest? not for me.

my eldest brother's a liverpool fan so i'm too familiar with all the anfield legends. fowler was a beast in his day. le tissier was a joy to watch, and beardsley was all class -- all three had flair to their games, too, something generally lacking in english players (with a few exceptions).

Witty 07-02-2015 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Eŋg (Post 499713)
best did nothing wrong except probably drink a good deal of his potential away. in another era he may have thrived and been comparable to all-time greats but i think he is a touch overrated. he was definitely a player - but one of the greatest? not for me.

my eldest brother's a liverpool fan so i'm too familiar with all the anfield legends. fowler was a beast in his day. le tissier was a joy to watch, and beardsley was all class -- they all had a bit of flair to them, too, something sorely lacking in english players in recent years.

I can't say greatest because as you said he threw it all away....but one of the most naturally gifted of all time? Absolutely imo.

Ah Fowler, the man they called God.

If only we had a player like him last season :(

Eŋg 07-02-2015 08:56 PM

lol. we have to strike a balance between god-given potential, accolades and overall performance though, otherwise we'd consider the recobas, denilsons, aimars, ortegas and cassanos of football's history, or careers like van basten's and ivan de la pena's plagued by injuries -- adriano had a wand for a left foot, for a season and a half. zlatan can pretty much do it all as a centre forward.

you're irish, i fully forgive your bias, just don't expect me to share it. i see best on a tier below the absolute top, but not miles off.

El Muffin 07-02-2015 10:40 PM

It's coz Pele black

Ghost1 07-03-2015 07:59 AM

The op Messi vid an engs Zidane vid gave me the chills

Dope

El Muffin 07-03-2015 08:05 AM

Ok u guys r right

Some of that shit Zidane wss doing was incredible

His timing...

Iono if his ball skills were the greatest but his game was cerebral. I can see that

El Muffin 07-03-2015 08:09 AM

Excuse my ignorance. His ball skills are amazing

What I mEan is he looks as if he's just mind fucking everybody

boof 07-03-2015 09:25 AM

dope


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