I know quite a few Packers fans and none of them like McCarthy much. He's just a guy who stands on the sidelines. Rodgers gets visibly frustrated with him once a game. I agree with you on John Fox.

Tomlin was an omission by me. He's probably in the conversation. He's very much a players coach, though, and I'm wary of those types. Plus his Steelers teams have a knack for losing obvious wins (Tampa this year just as an example).

Pagano's solid. He's probably in the conversation.

I honestly think Rex might be top 5. But he's the opposite of your Sean Payton assessment. Needs help on offense. But his defensive prowess and ability to motivate his team is second to none.

belicheck=harbaugh>carroll>tomlin>

im not sure if im forgetting anybody but thats all thats worth mentioning off top. coughlin deserves credit too tho because i wasnt overly impressed with any of those giants teams he fielded in super bowls, but i could just be forgetting a bunch of goons because its the giants who gives a shit

arians is a G tho for having arizona competitive and the colts played better under him as well honestly even with a young luck. pagano's AIGHT. he should be a d. coordinator at best

most these dudes spring board into head coaching careers after excelling as assistants and coordinators with the ravens, when really they don't deserve to be at the helm. just cuz you can UNFURL the sails doesn't mean you can NAVIGATE USING THE STARS

Harbaugh isn't Belichicks equal and the entire Ravens franchise is built on a bed of lies.

elaborate on the bed of lies statement

also you are correct, harbaugh is better i was just being polite by saying they were equals

Odd that you are wary of player's coaches but are high on Rex. He's certainly got more dimensions that his brother, but I could not in good conscience put him up there with those other names. I would begrudgingly have to admit Coughlin was an oversight on my part, though, again - it's been proven he's only as good as his assistants (numerous times at that)

Ray Lewis is a murderer and you guys are named after a poem while wearing the color purple yet you act as though you are the toughest team in the league.

Also,

Joe Flacco looks like an inbred Simpsons character and has prohibitively crippled his teams chance at future success with his albatross of a contract.

Also,

Your secondary consists of actual actors who played football players in The Replacements.

Also,

You barely beat the Connor Shaw led Browns to make the playoffs.

THE RAVENS ARE FRAUDS, NOW AND FOREVER. RAY LEWIS IS THE BIGGEST HYPOCRITE TO EVER HYPOCRITE.

not really they're decent but fuck the ravens idk

ray lewis is not a murderer, he was a witness to a murder.

flacco should be paid more

our secondary is indeed abysmal.

connor shaw>brian hoyer (almost being serious. neither of them should start for any team so either or being better doesn't matter)

ravens will win their second superbowl of the flacco/harbaugh era, and instead of being compared to belicheck and brady they will continue to get no credit and excuses will be made for why they are constantly knocking on the door as the best team in football

What about the purple poem thing

it was a RAP SONG, he just was ahead of his time and people thought it was a poem

it was really just a dope text verse

Nah Rex is a great coach

His brother is overrated

I wonder who chicago'll bring in

btw @Dancake

do you think we should of kept Mccown?

he looked like something special last year.

iono whats going on in tampa but the magic is gone obv

Bili..jim..Coughlin/Tomlin..Carroll

Bil can only b compared to Walsh n other all timers.....Jim came in n did what no other coach had ever done..Coughlin n Tomlin r gz..caroll is the most annoying faggot ever but he wins.
I'm pretty sure half the hawks D is on something tho

Yeah. And so is everyone on 9ers. And everyone on the Bears. And everyone on the Bengals. And everyone, on every team, in the NFL.

Steroids are just a given.

bears d on roids= still absolutely terrible

secondary even playing like trash. (which I wasn't expecting honestly)

Andy Reid has only had two jobs and shown a rare level of consistent competence at everything other than managing the clock, which is the most overrated aspect of coaching by far.

rex ryan is good at seeming like a competent coach. hes not tho. he took a decent jets team to the conference title which deserves respect. from that point on tho they got progressively worse with him at the helm.

rob ryan amd rex are one in the same. the difference is rex has had more talented defenses to coach up while robs been stuck with bums in the nfc.

neither deserve the control a head coach is given.

I love rex as a coordinator. but im glad we went with harbaugh instead of ryan. his dumbass wouldve started troy smith and stuck with him for three years and went to flacco after putting terrible overhyped talent around him and it wouldve been a disaster.

Forgot about Reid.

i don't agree with your assessment of clock management being overrated tho.
Situational football is everything.

http://deadspin.com/the-bears-probab...man-1676354356

LOL BEARS

oh man

wow

wow
@Dancake

Yeah I was aware of the Arian's/Bevell thing. Marinelli is news to me. He's done great work with that Dallas defense despite the very marginal talent on that side of the roster. No matter Marinellis ability to make a decent defense out of nothing I don't think our pass defense was going to be any better than it was this year. Other than Kyle Fuller there isn't one player in our secondary or linebacking corps worth a shit. But it is frustrating to hear our incompetent front office cost us not only Arian's (whose offense system would've been PERFECT for our roster) but also Marinelli.

Its dark days.

Can't wait for us to draft a 2nd round-grade linebacker with our first rounder this year