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TFW people debate opinions that aren’t theirs better than you debate your own opinions

the fact you frame it as a "bunch of men" further showcases your one sided view of the issue. plenty of women are against abortion. those men got voted into their positions by plenty of women.

but again in their eyes, its not about the women who are pregnant, but the defenseless baby they are carrying. the baby didn't decide to exist.

im for abortion. as far as its politically concerned. but i'm against it morally. but if you can't see that both sides mean good you aren't looking at it correctly.

im just against the government interfering with the people.

Roe v. Wade is like a 46 year precedent. They must know it's futile.

why is the federal government involved? weed has been illegal for way longer federally, but plenty of states have legalized it and the feds haven't interfered in any meaningful way

the feds shouldn't interfere with any decisions made by any states

if youre against legal weed move out of colorado

if youre for abortion move out of alabama

we don't need to a be a uniform union that imprisons people for their decisions in life if everyone in their community doesn't view that decision as harmful to them

Damn knuck might finally beat my 3k views with this thread...

You fucking dense assholes
I would never want a woman to have an abortion
It’s also none of my fucking business
Nor yours, nor anyone’s but that woman
Why don’t we just mandate organ donation while we’re at it?
You have two kidneys, this guy needs one, lay the fuck down
Knucklehead is a bigger man than me, while I insult his family, he just posts pics of me and insults my job, intelligence and ability to debate
While being a self-professed troll
Then I got fucking 6 chromosome uh-oh over here weighing in
Fuck all of you
It’s a wonder that you still know how to breathe
Fucking ignorant
How many unwanted babies have you adopted captain save the fetuses?

But no, you’re championing life ends when you log off I’m sure

I mean why is fucking dead people bad?
They’re dead. They don’t care. We should be able to fuck them
No, the dead retain their bodily autonomy, but fucking women don’t get to

Yall wild. This basically effects poor women.
Wealthier women in Alabama can easily travel out of state. Where as poorer women can not.

des. put aside your emotions

i don't care about you and knucks argument

we have the same exact stance on the issue. it ain't for me or you to decide. im pro abortion. my personal thoughts don't matter. i don't want it to be law that women can't get abortions.

i also however respect other peoples freedoms, and if a state is largely against abortions, it ain't for me to weigh in on. if it was my state and an issue that actually affected me i would vote against it. if it was obvious i was in the minority, i would move.

all i'm promoting in this thread is less federal intervention and giving more power to the states in governing themselves.

i'll fish a baby out with a bent clotheshanger who gives a shit nerds. paging doc martin, paging doc martin.

Not to mention the hypocrisy.
-poorer women are "welfare queens" and using up benefits.
-its been proven that families that struggle, have children more enclined to live a life of crime.
- who tf is gonna adopt these kids a d get them out of foster care?

These are all valid points
However, this speaks directly towards people’s “freedoms”
States do have the right to make laws
But not ones that go against the Constitution of the United States
And that’s the crux of this debate
Is it constitutional to tell a woman “you can’t get an abortion in the state of Alabama legally, after you’re aware that you’re pregnant?”
I don’t believe that it is, and I guess we shall see

good Dylan quote

The point is to take it to the SC to overturn Roe, even partially (states rights)

You’re just not getting it man. You don’t agree with me on when life is life. Neither of us is stating facts. We’re stating opinions. My opinion is based on science and probability. Doesn’t mean it’s the be all answer. All of your frustration is null when those abortions are ending a life to me and others. I see your argument as one that is an equivalency to saying we shouldn’t charge murders if they shoot someone dead in the streets because it’s not our business. Your organ donor argument isn’t relevant because it’s arguing that all people should participate in a communal prevention program, not saying people should be held accountable for their direct and conscience actions.

I also didn’t make this conversation personal, you did. Sorry you couldn’t take what you gave big guy.

And why would I save fetuses? It wasn’t my mistake made, therefore I’m not accountable.

Communal prevention program? Lol
Look, man. You think abortion is ending a life. But you also obviously place a higher value on these babies lives than you do say a person in need of a kidney transplant. This guy didn’t ask for his kidneys to fail, why should he have to die so you can walk around with your two kidneys intact? Now, am I advocating for that? No. Because it’s fucking insane. But I think that arguing for his right to your kidney is similar to your argument. I mean, you’re saying this guy doesn’t have the right to life support? Why not? The babies do, but kidney guy doesn’t? Why? Babies do have a right to life. They don’t, however, have the right to life support, which is what forcing women to bear them is giving them. So, what I’m asking you, is why not go all the way in your search to preserve life which is so precious? Take organs from people who don’t need them. Take blood from people if you need to - they don’t need all of it- hell, you can drop a pint like every week and be cool. Why does your call to preserve the Uber-precious life stop at the unwanted kind?

idk what the summer classics have to do with his, but okay ig.

I said earlier in this thread I wouldn’t care if there was a mandatory organ donor program. I don’t think it’s a viable legislation. I think abortion when the mother is healthy and had sex by choice is a case of murder. I don’t think abortion laws will make abortions go away or solve any important issues. That doesn’t mean I can’t argue why I believe they’re wrong.

But it’s really insane to me you think this argument makes any sense. Again you have no capacity to understand others points of view. If I see abortion as murder I see someone needing a kidney as someone dying in a traffic accident. It’s something that has nothing to do with anyone but that person and their family. Sourcing organs from strangers isn’t a relevant argument here just because it deals with some form of body autonomy. I am not arguing that abortion is an issue of body autonomy and never will be convinced it is for any reason but the babies body autonomy.

Lol. You’re a fucking moronic misogynistic asshole and I truly feel sorry for your wife and pretty much any woman that ever has to tolerate you
What if the baby is a woman?
By that logic it shouldn’t have any bodily autonomy so it could be aborted.
Game over
Log off
Kill yourself
Karaoke won
demo was lame
Eat shit

You’ve gotta be trolling at this point. That argument was some DMS shit. Hurts my head to even think it might be 10% serious. I don’t think you understand logic in any capacity if you made that left turn into a ditch with what I said.