raps got swept by a team that got swept
fuck basketball

Lol @ by far the goat. 3-6. DONT BLAME ME I HAD NO HELP

He's not even the close second anymore

no one is close

i used to look at kobe like a poor mans jordan.

neither of them are even a poor mans lebron.

Bron coming back to Miami for a threepeat

Paul George a free agent righ? Hmmmm

lol u gottab trollin
Jordan never quit in the 4th. Jordan always played defense

Uh oh would let Trump's and Lebroom run a train on him.

Lol @ I pretty much played with a broken hand.

FOH, HES A CRY BABY FAGGOT LOSER LABROOM.

He had no help? Neither did Dirk when the Mavs defeated the "Super Team Miami Heat" in what 2011 or some shit... FOH, LABROOM.

dirk had a squad stop it

lebron is basically ray lewis and tom brady rolled into one

he is the greatest athlete of all time, all sports considered

your guys descent into haterism is only going to push my dickriderism further

continue at your own PERIL

The Mavs finals is the only black mark on his record. He's been the underdog, Vegas wise, in every Finals he hasn't won. Maybe he was favored Heat v. Spurs II cant remember.

Someone's opinion of LeBron is really just a litmus test for whether they're analytics based or hot take based. By statistical metrics he's clearly the second best player of all time. But if you want to make impossible to prove arguments about killer instinct or clutchness or whatever other nonsense then yeah, you can strawman the hell out of him. Or try to say he's a cry baby, even though every NBA player bitches about calls and he's the most durable/toughest player in the league, physically.

For reference, Jordan's Bulls were favored in all 6 of his Finals. LeBron has been favored in 2 of 9. Now there could be some circular logic in this defense of LeBron, as in Jordan is better BECAUSE he was favored every time. But the fact is, you need context for everything. Is Lionel Messi a worse player when he loses in the World Cup than he is when he's winning leagues and tourneys for Barcelona? No. It's just the breaks with roster construction and team dynamics.

I'm no huge Lebron/Cavs stan. I just think his haters getting worked up to shit on him when they could just enjoy a literal GOAT candidate for 15+ years is funny.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...rt-his-legacy/

Bron to rockets?
Bring him to my lakers. Ungh

Ps
Loom at the team he brought to the finals this year. Bron da god.

I think that's a well-worded Lebron take for Pancake...

In my opinion Jordan was a better scorer, but Lebron is a better passer and rebounder.
Jordan could play good D...Lebron impressive with those chasedown blocks.

They both are the all-time greats.

The Warriors probably couldn't wait to play Cleveland sans Kyrie Irving.
We just beat this team 3-1 and now we get to play them without Irving? Guess what, 4-0.

As great as Golden State is... I think they would have lost if Chris Paul played game 6 or 7. Rockets had them on the ropes.

Jordan average defense > LeBron's on his best game.

Nah. Jordan's probably better but it's not some crazy disparity like you're making it out to be.

James has multiple top five DPOY finishes and was the key part to that Miami defense of switching and closing out everything. Defensive versatility, across positions, is an edge he has over Jordan. Like I said, on balance Jordan is probably better but LeBron was a world class defender at his peak.

i've been listening to all types of nonsense about how jordan would single guys out and lock them down defensively. and hey thats great that he had the luxury to do that. he couldn't defend all 5 positions and that would never be asked of him. him trading assignments with pippen is cute. lebron is expected to defend everyone. he's expected to do EVERYTHING. jordan was expected to be the cerebral scorer he was. and thats all well and great

but it always comes back to how you weigh it out. anyone objectively can see lebron james is the better basketball player.


5 ON 5 WHO WINS

5 JORDANS VS 5 LEBRONS

JOHN STOCKTON >

5 stocktons would just glitch the matrix and they would pass to eachother in a continuous loop

Steve Nash > Stockton

Look at Stockton’s field goal percentage and free throw percentage. The Stockton’s would whittle down the defense with mid range jumpers backdoor baseline layups and free throw and 1s.

Respect for showing Stockton love.

State your case

The lack of honor and intelligence you show in life renders any of your opinions moot friend.

I will return with my answer, currently shopping for food

I patiently await.

5 Jordans. By a good margin.

I vehemently disagree w/ this statement. Jordan cannot pass or rebound anywhere near the level that Lebron can, and LeBron is the superior defender. 6'8" 270 matters in isolation basketball

word

jordan(s) would make some difficult mid range shots and maybe even get to the hoop from time to time

but lebron(s) wouldn't be stopped

lebrons stats are more skewed because he isn't a pure scorer, so his fg and 3pt percentages are better than jordans, but i don't think that makes him a better scorer as much as he takes better opportunities, because he can rely on his other skills. where jordan was so good he'd just take his chances on contested shots cuz he couldnt make a pinpoint pass to the open guy in the corner

but word again its weird comparing them in general because they are so different. but if people want to keep comparing them and bringing up goofy stuff like "jordans mindset" i'll be forced to keep pointing out lebrons greatness and all the factors surrounding each players greatness

no one cares about all the losses jordan got because he was supposed to lose. he was supposed to get swept by the celtics. the pistons were supposed to beat him. the warriors were supposed to beat lebron. but somehow he is held to a higher standard.

its just an argument for him being GOAT.

Stay wise Stockton is slightly better.

Although Stockton was great defensively and a wizard with assists I feel like he was never the type of player to take over games. He was always around making plays but never the focal point per say. Malone was always the go to go for that clutch shot or game changing play. Would Stockton have been as great with out Malone? I doubt it.

Nash was ac2 time league mvp. He was the Phoenix offense and literally with his play and the couching in Phoenix change the game to what it is today. Look at Houston and GS, basically the entire league.

That’s why I feel Nash trumps Stockton.

I did a team of jordans vs a team of lebrons in 2k
Brons got swept every time

Lol Bron had a broken hand after throwing a fit after game one. His case as number two steadily declining

LeBron's defense is NO WHERE near Jordan, dude.

How many defensive titles does LeBron have?

Defensive titles mean jack shit in 2018, they don't give awards the same way. Watch the game. How many highlights defensively does MJ have? AI put MJ on fucking ice skates don't come at me w/ that shit Lebron defends 5 positions better than 90% of the people at that position.

I love how the only argument is DPOTY awards lmfao those don't go to MVPs anymore bud they gotta spread the love around.

All y'all old ass fgts need to realize that in 10 15 years, ur all gonna be dead, and there is gonna be not much of a yard stick between the 2. Cause if titles are the argument then MJ still aint the best lol

Defensive titles means nothing?

Oh ok, so neither does MVP titles, right?

The fuck...

How many years did it take Jordan to get his 6 rings?

Lebroom approaching what, his 20th season now LOL, FOH bro..

Bro were talking about 5 MJ's vs 5 Lebrons? Not the 2018 Cavs vs the 96 Bulls in the Finals. Where I would pick the Bulls lmao. MVP titles really aren't as important anymore because of social media and the fact that the voting isn't only based on players/coaches. You think Russell Westbrook was the MOST VALUABLE player last year? Like in a draft w/ all players current, who goes first? It's LeBron or KD every time but they don't trade MVPs every season. NBA spreads the love.

Killer mentality, clutch scoring, scoring in general is all MJ.

Passing, rebounding, defending, IQ is wayyyyy Lebron

Nah bro, I disagree with your defense logic.

Jordan's defense was much better. LeBron can chase people down court and block a shot from behind when they aren't expecting it, WOW...

LIKE ANYONE HIS SIZE SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

JORDAN > LEBROOM.

Magic > Jordan

lebron>all of them

Ah man lebron fan logic.
Get me every time.

"SCORING TITLES AND DEFENSE TITLES MEAN NOTHING"

you are obviously taking it out of context by what he meant though. or you just didn't understand his point.

comparing them as defenders is like comparing jalen ramsey to cj mosley. jalen ramsey is probably the higher caliber player, but he's a man to man corner. mosley has more responsibility on every snap. its much easier to see and appreciate ramsey's dominance because his task is much more straight forward

if lebron had the luxury to do nothing but guard other small forwards he would be 1st team all defense every season.

He didnt have a point lol just more cherry picking shit the stans love to do. If he can guard 1-5 how would that not be more noticeable? It should be

Exactly.

Lebron has to cover so much ground because his team is HORRIBLE defensively. He goes from guarding Devin Booker to Anthony Davis to Kevin Durant to Bradley Beal to Kristaps to both DeRozan/Lowry. Last time he had a decent defense outside of him was... ? D Wade could defend but only to the 3 and Bosh was a liability. Team D was there, Battier was solid but they were not a defensive team. His team now is the worst defensive team to ever make the Finals

His team now is the worst defensive team to ever make the Finals

Change my mind.

You will never convince me MJ was better defensively it's just not true