Hey guys, Jay-Z vs Nas...who won?

The existence of an illuminati or whatever wouldn't surprise me, I dunno if it exists or not, never looked into it, never cared tbh...but if it did exist I wouldn't be surprised.

Nas because Jay-Z made him relevant again. #HotRapsTake

Jay imo

By quite a distance.

Jay when he signed Nas, obv.

Alright, I'm changing my tune though. @Diode @oats @sraL @Certain @dead man

This subject used to interest me a lot during my time in the Air Force but since then, I've grown disinterested, and I defer to my prior research on rare occasions like this. I'm convinced but I'm not consumed. I've moved onto more important things in my life, like my career, the opposite sex and getting better at writing. I'd rather utilize you guys as a resource and not as an opportunity to expel my own views, thoughts and proof/evidence. I'll give you the evidence but I won't put the effort into explaining it properly. I'd rather spend my time on more valuable things, like learning from you. If you can help me sharpen my critical thinking blades, and expound on your knowledge of the scientific method/concepts on psychology and the human mind, then I'll be better off. Better off than endless rambling in threads like this.

Here's the evidence:

http://streitcouncil.org/uploads/PDF...ld%20order.pdf

The World Trade Center was an engineering marvel and was absolutely designed like all skyscrapers, to collapse on top of itself. This was a topic in my civil engineering college course. The majority of the building was air. Brilliant design.

The essentially hit them in perfect spots. The fuel rich flame was enough to weaken the tensile strength of the steel by 50-60% this the weight above was enough to start the chain reaction of each floor collapsing upon itself. That is a design safety mechanism.

there was fuckery afoot on 9/11

rip to the firefighters, police and civilians. not so much the rich niggas tho cuz IM BITTER and POOR.

but yea building 7 is still weird to me. the pentagon losing trillions of dollars and the part of the pentagon being hit where that info would be is weird to me (has this been disproven?) also i think the plane over PA was shot down. i also think the second plane that hit the towers, at least the second plane could have been shot down but cheney let it happen.

and louie ck has it right. when bush found out cheney didnt do what he could to stop it cheney punched him in his dumbass head, and they had to make a fake report about how he choked on a pretzel and hit his head.

but yo

as far as the bilderberg group, i've tried looking into it and i just continually get more lost.

as far as the bohemian grove, nixon da god put it best, bunch of fags in the woods.

as far as alex jones, i love that fear mongering weirdo.

he has the documents. that is all.

but yo @Diode

the "new world order" doesn't have to have an "evil agenda"

just the fact that if people were getting together to make a one world government is enough to be a conspiracy, its people conspiring right? even if there intentions are for the benefit for all.

but this thread isnt the right place for it since imo 9/11 and the NWO/bilderberg/whatever isnt related.

I read it through and it just reads like some relic of an ideal they had back in the 50's-60s.

Nothing more.

I hadn't read this post until just now, but you pretty much summed up my thought on this: It's just an ideal of one global government... not for any evil intent at world comination or the like, more so to ensure we don't wipe ourselves out if another world war happens.