Look st like this. Why is MGK touring with fall out boy?

Cuz it’s the same crowd listening to em.

And yeah I doubt em gives a fuck about sales at this point in his career, it’s obvious he wants the respect from fans and his peers

Tbh not to many besr 50 dudes rapping like em lol

I agree with everything you said in this thread except the sales thing....Eminem still cares about sales as much now as ever before imo....that is why revival had all those pop stars on it....but that shit didn't work for him as well as he thought....however he did try to be a lot more "hip-hop" with the newest project with the joyner n Royce features and no pink, ed shereen, Beyonce or Rihanna tracks....and the results musically speaks for its self....however Eminem still used a lot of promotional tactics to simply sell records...


But through out his career I give Eminem props for walking that thin line between mainstream and still aknowledging his hip-hop roots

I guess my whole thing is, ofcourse he HAS to sell records. But st this point in his career he’s aiming to sell records to stay relevant this maintain his status as a great, rather than just selling record for the money. He doesn’t need the money lol so him caring about how how much he sells doesn’t really matter to him imo.

Revival didn’t do great in sales but I don’t see him bitching about that at all, he’s more pissed people thought it was trash feel me

Understood...though Eminem has went on record a few times saying his tracklisting being prereleased hurt his sales n he will not make that mistake again....and i liked a lot of revival...thought. It showed a different more mature Eminem....

On a side note...am I the only one who thought recovery was awesome?

Recovery was mature and full of content (Budden lol), but he (rightfully) caught flak for those terribly corny wordplays.

The production on recovery is probably the best of Eminem career.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NskX9xoN1IE

This will always be the GOAT Eminem diss track imo.

I prefer Nail in the Coffin.

Written back before Em had a laptop in his back pocket.

Which brings me to another conversation....and I hesitate to do this because I hate to come across as a 'stan'...I am a fan of Eminem, he's probably my 2nd favourite rapper of all time, and imo he's the best rapper of all time....but he's made some bad bad albums along with the great ones...I digress....my thought process is...if you listen to infinite, and to some degree the slim shady LP...early Em had the same propensity to just rhyme and keep rhyming....his rhyming then was nearly as good as it is now...and it's always been great....but there was a switch from MMLP - Relapse (but not including) where he cut back with the constant stream of rhyming....some might say dumbed it down (though it was still dope)...and he went back there with Recovery (which by no coincidence is his biggest selling album since the first three)....are we now seeing Eminem as he has always wanted to be?

I think he just wants to rhyme.

WHAT A DICK RIDING DEVON SAWA ASS MOTHER FUCKER YOU ARE

I spend more time thinking about the psychology of the human being Marshall Mathers than I should probably admit. He’s admitted he views writing rhymes as crossword puzzles. Anyone who’s written rhymes at a decent skill level for long enough knows what he means. I’m sure it’s a combination of escapism turned habitual and formed into a sense of self. He’s obsessive. A perfectionist. Something else that’s easy for a lot of writers to relate to. Writing is an isolating, self reflective task.

I was watching that Comedians in Cars getting Coffee with Seinfeld and he was shooting the shit with John Oliver at a little cafe. They were talking about how their significant others took some time to understand that nothing they say is what they actually mean. Their brains have been wired to formulate thoughts that end in a laugh and whatever comes before the laugh has no concrete significance to them.

I think rhyming is the same way. I’ve lamented in plenty of verses I’ve posted here about the process of writing. How it’s lost it’s magic because it almost comes down to a paint by numbers sort of deal once you’ve reached a certain point.

I think Em had a major personality split when Proof died. Coinciding with his sobering up. I’ve read him say he had to relearn how to write. In the disenchantment of writing you lose some of the fluidity, I think. You become a sort of rhyming or writing machine, as opposed to a reactionary human laying out his thoughts.

I think Recovery was indeed his post rehab album. Humbled. MMLP2 was littered with more traditional verses. I love that album, but I’m mostly a fan of dope rhymes so it makes sense. On Revival I really think he tried. It’s so dense with wordplay, references and top notch lyricism, but that kind of work has been passed over thousands of times. My Name Is was a gimmick. Marshall was genuine, but playing a role. I think you’re right to a degree. At this point he’s making the music he wants, but I also think he has a sharp focus on providing his fans and Hip Hop as a culture with good songs.

I find guy endlessly fascinating, honestly. Would love to sit and just talk writing and shit with him.

- Truly yours.

I remember a interview where Eminem said he is addicted to rhyming words...that as a kid even before he knew what rap was he would see how many words he could rhyme in sentences....sounds weird but some ppl just have weird habits...Eminem loves rhymes schemes..

And witty speaking of Eminem albums....just outta curiosity rank them in you order

I enjoyed dull boys post more than yours


I don't really enjoy your posts

No one enjoys ur living.

MMLP
Eminem Show
SSLP
Relapse
Kamikaze
Recovery
Encore

IMO.

You better be talking bout that other weirdo.

He’s clearly a sadomasochist with deep insecurities. Songs about his relationships are solid evidence of that.

He’s a humble dude, I think. Introspective. A performer, though. Anyone see how Jim Carrey is lately? At a cursory glance you might think he’s gone insane, and by definition maybe he has a little, but they remind me of each other. You develop a skill out of necessity. You love it. Then you’re a slave to it.

Jim is another dude I’d love to chat with.

We are the same person.

All my friends r here Tonite :)

Speaking of Jim Carey.....that Andy and me doc was fireeeee

Jim an Andy *